The Hobbit - The Movie: Speculation and Discussion

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MICHKA
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Que pensez-vous de cette elfe femme dans le film de P.Jakson? si le fond de l'histoire n'en souffre pas, je crois qu'un peu de féminité au milieu de tous ces nains mâles virils , forts gloutons, bruyants, tonitruants, ne peut qu'apporter une note plus légère, plus aérienne, non?
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Michka, I'll post the same answer here that I posted over at Viggo-Works:
I have no problem with a Mirkwood female warrior elf being presented in the film, as long as she isn't romantically linked to Legolas or Thranduil. It makes perfect sense that Thranduil would have female warriors in his army. His kingdom is under siege and has been under siege by the Necromancer and his minions for hundreds and hundreds of years. An embattled King, seeking to preserve his people and the forests they love, is going to accept the participation of skilled warriors regardless of their gender if he has any sense at all, and Thranduil certainly is no fool. In fact, I would find it very unrealistic if ALL Mirkwood warriors were male. I hope we see other female elven warriors in the background, kicking butt and taking names!

As Sage mentioned, there is a great tradition of female warriors and heroines in early Northern European sagas and legends -- Boudicca comes immediately to mind, as well as Eleanor of Aquitaine and the Amazons of Greek legend. Why shouldn't a female be allowed to defend her homeland and family if she so desires -- ESPECIALLY if she's really good at it?

Merry, like you, I reserve judgment until I see what PJ & Co. actually DO with the character. If she comes across true to The Professor's vision of Middle-earth, then I will have no problem with Tauriel.

If not, GRRRRRRRrrrrrrrr!
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Merci pour cette réponse , faisons confiance au réalisateur, je suis l'évènement de près et j'attends de voir ce film avec plaisir et impatience!
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Si P.Jakson pouvait retrouver les scènes coupées avec la promenade d'Arwen et Aragorn, jeunes et ''beaux'', et les inclure dans une partie du film, quelle joie ce serait de les revoir, retourner dans la Lorien avec eux, de nouveau être dans la féérie de l'imaginaire!!!
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It would be nice to see those scenes, Michka. But will they be able to use them, considering they are filming in 3D?
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Ah, c'est vrai, je n'y avais pas pensé, merci Merry de m'ouvrir les yeux; pourtant , si cela devait se faire, il suffirait d'oter les ''Lunettes'' inconfortables, pendant cette séquence, non?Je plaisante, bien sûr, je ne suis pas experte en production cinématographique(!!)
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I'm not an expert, either, Michka--far from it! I have HUGE doubts about this 3D technology, but I'll wait and see!
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Comme vous dites: attendons de voir! vivement la fin de l'année pour satisfaire notre curiosité....
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TOR.n has posted PJ's latest vlog that features a lot of location filming: wonderful shots of dwarves and scenery! Can't wait!
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vu le reportage sur le tournage qui promet de superbes images, une distribution de nains très bouffons faisant plaisir à voir, une ambiance digne du SDA, je crois bien qu'on peut faire confiance au talent et à l'expérience de Peter Jakson pour nous en mettre plein les yeux
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I think TOR.n might have posted its annual April Fool's Day jokes, among which is that Elladan and Elrohir will be played by the Weasley twins from Harry Potter. I have to say that I fall for this every year, but this year it only took a minute to see through it!
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très amusant, en effet, cet article, Merry vous êtes comme un enfant, encore tombé dans le piège, ça plairait beaucoup à Viggo, qui apprécie la fraîcheur enfantine, je ris avec vous!
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One of the TOR.n guys has reported on video from the Hobbit movie that he saw at one of those movie conventions. Some interesting details about Radagast the Brown, among other things! The only negative seems to be some doubts about the 3D technology.

December will be here soon!
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I just returned from a little vacation to find another installment of PJ's Facebook vlog--so exciting to see what's going on! But PJ and others seem tired; I suppose it has been a long haul. It'll be interesting to see how they deal with Legolas, since Orlando Bloom is looking much more 'mature' these days!
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Il y a quand même 10 ans depuis la réalisation de ces 3 films sur l'oeuvre de Tolkien, et ce sera une découverte un peu différente des héros de cette époque qui reviennent dans leurs rôles, moins difficile sans doute pour Gandalf que Legolas, un petit peu vieilli peut-être....Et d'ailleurs était-il besoin de le placer dans ''Le hobbit'', je ne me souviens pas mais bien sûr les Elfes en font partie, alors?
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