Who Said It?

Beren · Post by **Beren** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:04 am

It's a line from "The Sea-Bell"... and indeed it is Frodo! This was indeed a hard one...

Philipa · Post by **Philipa** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:22 pm

Riv Res wrote:It sounds more like Frodo to me. That is a sentiment he repeats many times throughout the book...of course so do a few others.

Exactly what why I had difficulty nailing that one down. Besides himself, there are other characters (Bilbo or Golum) who seem to reek of 'oh pity me' syndrome throught the book.

Good job.

Beren · Post by **Beren** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:26 pm

But "The Sea-Bell" is a poem from The Adventures of Tom Bombadil and is not in Lord of the Rings. The Sea-Bell tells the tale of a mortal carried to mysterious lands across the sea. There he finds none will acknowledge him. In anger and frustration he decorates himself out and declaims in challenge:

Here now I stand, king of this land,
With gladdon-sword and reed-mace.
Answer my call! Come forth all!
Speak to me words! Show me a face!

The pall of darkness and rejection that is the only response recalls to me in miniature the cataclysmic rejection of the challenge of Númenor on the shores of the Uttermost West. The poem is supposedly (little basis in fact) attributed to Frodo (it is subtitled Frodo's Dream) in his lonely last days in the Shire before his passage into the West. But surely in this rendition we hear Tolkien's own fears and hopes for himself, as he challenges the borders of the Perilous Realm.

Philipa · Post by **Philipa** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:31 pm

Ah, thank you for the clarification about this poem. I thought I had gone mad because I didn't remember it in any books I had read. So, it is from something I've not read yet.

Philipa · Post by **Philipa** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 1:22 am

Riv, you're up!

Riv Res · Post by **Riv Res** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:29 am

Who said?

"...then it must be evil indeed. You had better tell us about it, and let us know the worst at once."

Beren · Post by **Beren** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:24 am

But they didn't tell of course what was down there (although Gandalf must have known what was wondering in Moria)... the person who said this quote was Merry of course! I like his straightforwardness in the books!

Riv Res · Post by **Riv Res** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 1:18 pm

I suspected that would be too easy for you Beren.

You're correct and you're next!

Beren · Post by **Beren** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 1:58 pm

Who said?

Perhaps he has some foreboding of bad news.

Iolanthe · Post by **Iolanthe** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:43 pm

OK, I confess I'm stumped

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Riv Res · Post by **Riv Res** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:24 pm

Beren wrote:Who said?

Perhaps he has some foreboding of bad news.

Pippin makes this remark to Beregond in the darkest hours at Minas Tirith. I believe they are talking about Faramir.

Beren · Post by **Beren** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:51 pm

You are right about Pippin, but het does not talk about Faramir but about Gandalf:

'Yes,' said Pippin, 'Gandalf, too, is anxious. He was disappointed. I think, not to find Faramir here. And where has he got to himself? He left the Lord's council before the noon-meal, and in no good mood either, I thought. Perhaps he has some foreboding of bad news.'

Your turn!

Riv Res · Post by **Riv Res** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:09 pm

Aha! That's it.

I knew Faramir figured in there somewhere, but Gandalf it is.

Riv Res · Post by **Riv Res** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 10:34 pm

Who said...

I kill where I wish and none dare resist.

Alma · Post by **Alma** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 2:00 pm

I kill where I wish and none dare resist

Is it Sauroman? Just a guess