Tolkien Trivia

Beren · Post by **Beren** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 8:28 am

Beren wrote:Oops i just made a mistake here.... indeed Eomer is one year older... but no problem there is still another one who had the same age. A new tip: he is related to Bergil of Minas Tirith; if you want to make a new question i can agree (since i had Eomer in mind)

Good you started! The last one was Iorlas (if you wanted to know). And I agree on the answer above!!

Philipa · Post by **Philipa** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 11:55 am

seckvahl wrote:Drogo Baggins and Primula Brandybuck were Frodo's parents.

Excellent seckvahl. Way to go on your first post on MeJ...and welcome.

Your turn now and remember to use the Level chart found on the first post of this thread.

seckvahl · Post by **seckvahl** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 1:21 pm

Thank you! Let's see...I'm new to this, but I suppose this would be a Level 1:

Who said, "War must be...but I do not love the bright sword for its sharpnes, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend"?

-Seck

Merry · Post by **Merry** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:18 pm

I love that quote and I love the speaker: Faramir!

Merry · Post by **Merry** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 4:43 pm

seckvahl, I have failed to welcome you properly, a breach of courtesy! Your question shows you to be a true afficionado of Middle-earth, so glad to have you here! Please take a moment to go to the New Members thread and introduce yourself.

Merry · Post by **Merry** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:41 pm

(Three posts from me, the same person, in a row: when will this woman get organized?)

I'm going to be away from my computer for a few days, but I've noticed that the pace of this thread shouldn't be hindered, so I'm going to assume that my answer is correct and post the next question. I hope that is okay with you, seckvahl!

Level 1: Of whom was it said that he could "see through a brick wall in time"?

I'll leave the answer with the mods to keep things moving in my absence.

Beren · Post by **Beren** » Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:39 pm

In Bree they say: He thinks less than he talks, and slower; yet he can see through a brick wall in time... and then they talk about Barliman Butterbur. The person talking is of course Gandalf; and he was right of course.

Funny, i know a similar expression "Even an old fool can see through a brick wall in time", my father used to say.

Merry · Post by **Merry** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:31 am

I guess we shouldn't be surprised that Tolkien would use a real-life adage. I love that one!

Your turn, Beren.

Beren · Post by **Beren** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:22 pm

Ok here we go for another question; let us ask a level 1

What was Fili complaining about when he was taken out of his barrel... (the barrel he had used to escape from the woodelves)

Riv Res · Post by **Riv Res** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:01 pm

Beren wrote:Ok here we go for another question; let us ask a level 1

What was Fili complaining about when he was taken out of his barrel... (the barrel he had used to escape from the woodelves)

He was complaining about the smell of apples which permeated that barrel he was in.

Beren · Post by **Beren** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:19 pm

that is correct! Imagine that smell... horrible!

Your turn to ask a question!

Riv Res · Post by **Riv Res** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:09 pm

Level 1

What was the Sindarin name for the Encircling Walls? When and why were they built?

Philipa · Post by **Philipa** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:25 pm

Ok you've got me there. I only remember Echoriath but that is the Encircling Mountains which conceal Turgeon's city Gondolin. Is that what you mean?

Beren · Post by **Beren** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:37 pm

Rammas Echor - great wall circle; ram(b) (wall) + as (*abstract collective suffix), echor (outer circle, outer ring) <ed>caur (round, globed) *this suffix probably denotes “a complete set of different items of one kind” rather that mere plurality

The Rammas Echor was the outer wall surrounding Minas Tirith. It encircled the City and the croplands and pastures of the Pelennor Fields. The wall was over 10 leagues (30 miles) in length. It ran in a wide curve from the foot of Mount Mindolluin to the banks of the Anduin and then back to the mountain.

The Rammas Echor was said to have been built by the Men of Gondor "after Ithilien fell under the shadow of their Enemy." (RotK, p. 22) This probably means when the Nazgul took Minas Ithil and it was renamed Minas Morgul in 2002. At that time many of the inhabitants of Ithilien fled and Minas Anor was fortified and renamed Minas Tirith, the Tower of Guard. However, it may refer to a later time, when Uruks attacked Ithilien in 2901, or when Mount Doom burst into flame in 2954 and the remaining inhabitants of Ithilien fled.

Riv Res · Post by **Riv Res** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:06 pm

Marvelous response (and of course correct), Beren. I love the way Tolkien enriches his writings with in depth background on every detail.

You're up.