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Post by Merry »

Isn't it 'yrch'? No idea how that is pronounced!
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I think its pronounced with the same revulsion as eech or yuck.
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Post by Philipa »

Works in my book Merry.

It does make you think the elves have hairballs doesn't it?
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Post by Merry »

Or it might be a kind of allergic sneeze!

Here's a question that honors the birthdays at the end of the week:

What is the exact familial relationship between Frodo and Bilbo?

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Hint: Bilbo is not Frodo's uncle, as the movies claimed.
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Post by bruce rerek »

If I read my family tree correctly Mr. Frodo is Bilbo's second cousin. That is they share a common ancestor, a great uncle for Bilbo and a great grandfather for Frodo, a Largo Baggins.
As to how second and third cousins go I think that is ancestry claimed by marriage, like Merry and Pip, their ancestor would be a great grandfather, Hildigrim, making them related to the Baggins with a great grandmother, Rosa Baggins.
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Post by Merry »

Your family tree, Bruce? Is there something you haven't told us? :wink:

I've never been sure how to count cousins and once removed and all that, but you are correct that Bilbo's grandfather and Frodo's great-grandfather were brothers.

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No, not really, there was a Baggins that lived across the street from us when we lived in Queens, but no familial relation exists that I know.
Mansbane was the name called but what would be the new name and was the context?
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bruce rerek wrote: Mansbane was the name called but what would be the new name and was the context?
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Bruce where can this be found? I'm not remembering anything about 'mansbane'. :(
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It is in LOTR, to give you a hint bane means a curse or fell creature, and it is not the Nazgul.
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Post by Merry »

I can't remember this, either, but mansbane probably is some weapon used to hurt human beings, maybe some kind of orcish sword? Maybe that'll shake something loose from someone's ancient memory!
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bruce rerek wrote:It is in LOTR, to give you a hint bane means a curse or fell creature, and it is not the Nazgul.
:lol: Bruce you crack me up. I know what bane means. :lol:
maybe some kind of orcish sword?
Lot's of those cursed kind of swords in the lost tales for sure. I just can't remember one in LoTR. :?
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Post by bruce rerek »

Ah....nope, it is not an object. Sorry, Philipa I did not mean to seem to patronize, but the professor often used arcane language that might have been a bit too obtuse for current times. Its in the LOTR somewhere between the furthest ranges of the Misty Mountains and the northernmost parts of Mirkwood - near the sources of the Anduin. :wink:
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A relative of this line showed us the meaning of haste.
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Post by Merry »

Okay, let the wild guessing commence! Are we talking about a horse? Then perhaps it is swift Snowmane?
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A horse yes, but neither Snowmane or Shadowfax. His image is shown on the King's Standard.
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