Tolkien Trivia

Cassandra · Post by **Cassandra** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:12 pm

aflon wrote: Was it Oiolosse?

Sorry, it wasn´t

Cassandra

bruce rerek · Post by **bruce rerek** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:17 pm

Meneltarma - the holy mountain in Numenor, which isn't so accessable I fear.

aflon · Post by **aflon** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:43 pm

aflon wrote:

Was it Oiolosse?

Sorry, it wasn´t

I'm obviously using the wrong reference books then, because according to the JFA Tyler 'Complete Tolkien Companion' the Holy Mountain is Oiolosse - otherwise known as 'Mount-everwhite', the highest of the Pelori range of Valinor.

I wonder if people are using different translations of various books in different countries.

Anyway I'll leave you all to play.

Philipa · Post by **Philipa** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:52 pm

It is very possible the answer maybe different when looking in other referrence books Aflon. I have the Tolkien's World from A to Z. The Complete Guide to Middle-earth by Robert Foster and neither answers are listed as 'the Holy mountain'. However, if you look up Holly Mountain it says the answer is Taniquetil.

Cassandra · Post by **Cassandra** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:57 pm

Well, I have to admit that Taniquetil is called the Holy Mountain, too. But the mountain I am looking for is in Middle Earth, and the translated word is not of Elvish origin.

Cassandra

Marilyn · Post by **Marilyn** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:06 pm

Philipa wrote:It is very possible the answer maybe different when looking in other referrence books Aflon. I have the Tolkien's World from A to Z. The Complete Guide to Middle-earth by Robert Foster and neither answers are listed as 'the Holy mountain'. However, if you look up Holly Mountain it says the answer is Taniquetil.

Don't you just love Tolkien!

There are so many translations of the same thing, be it Quenya or Sindarin. in Tyler's reference book "Oiolosse" (Q) is listed as the "holy mountain" with older Quenya names of "Taniquetil" (High white peak) and "Elerrina" (star crowned). The Sindarin equivalent was Amon Uilos.

It just depends on what is in the mind of the questioner?

Cassandra, what do you think?

Marilyn

Cassandra · Post by **Cassandra** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:20 pm

The mind of the questioner is on a completely different track

I don´t think the mountain was called "Holy" because of the Valar, but I am not sure about this. There was also a wood on this mountain called "Holy"!

Cassandra

Marilyn · Post by **Marilyn** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:34 pm

Cassandra wrote:The mind of the questioner is on a completely different track

I don´t think the mountain was called "Holy" because of the Valar, but I am not sure about this. There was also a wood on this mountain called "Holy"!

Cassandra

Then it has to be Halifirien, yes?

Marilyn

Philipa · Post by **Philipa** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:39 pm

Cassandra wrote:The mind of the questioner is on a completely different track

I don´t think the mountain was called "Holy" because of the Valar, but I am not sure about this. There was also a wood on this mountain called "Holy"!

Cassandra

OOoo that was a big hint.... According to Noel's Langauges of Tolkien's Middle-earth the Elvish word for Holy in Quenya is either 'aina' or 'aire'. Cross checking in Foster's book I can't find something to match. What fun!

Cassandra · Post by **Cassandra** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 10:05 pm

Marilyn wrote: Then it has to be Halifirien, yes?

Marilyn

Yes it is, Marilyn! It´s the Rohan name of Amon Anwar, the Hill of Awe, where Elendil was buried and Eorl swore his oath. The syllable "hal" comes from the Anglo-Saxon word hálig and means holy, firien comes from firgen and means mountain.

Your turn!

Cassandra

Philipa · Post by **Philipa** » Sun Sep 25, 2005 11:29 pm

Wow, that one was super hard. You ladies are fantastic! Throw us beginner's a bone once in awhile would you?

Marilyn · Post by **Marilyn** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:55 am

Philipa wrote:Wow, that one was super hard. You ladies are fantastic! Throw us beginner's a bone once in awhile would you?

Thanks Cassandra, I enjoyed reading again the story of Cirion and Eorl in "The Unfinished Tales", I knew somewhere there was a reference to a holy mountain in it. You did give a big hint though

Well here's a Level 1 question

Where was "Sting" forged and from whom did he famously protect the dwarves with it?

bruce rerek · Post by **bruce rerek** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 4:32 pm

Having just recalled Gondolin in another thread, I believe Sting was forged there and was used against those nasty spiders in Mirkwood
Another blade was wielded by a famous Elf in the same city later to come into the hands of one the Fellowship of the Ring.

Marilyn · Post by **Marilyn** » Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:19 pm

Hi bruce rerek, yes you are correct.

Sorry everyone I missed out Bilbo's name.

Bruce, you are it, for the next question

Marilyn

Philipa · Post by **Philipa** » Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:21 pm

OOOooooooooohhhhh Bruce..........where are youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu?