Tolkien Trivia

Lindariel · Post by **Lindariel** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 6:41 pm

It was indeed, Merry. Name where and when, and it will be your turn to pose the next question.

Merry · Post by **Merry** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 2:53 am

Had to look this up: when Gandalf and Denethor first face off in the throne room in Minas Tirith--March 9--Pippin sees the similarities and differences between the two old men as they struggle for dominance. A great scene!

Lindariel · Post by **Lindariel** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:44 pm

I agree Merry, it is a fabulous scene, one that further illuminates both Gandalf and Denethor and gives us an inkling of the kind of power the Men of Westernesse must have wielded at one time.

Your turn!

Merry · Post by **Merry** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:06 pm

Okay then!

Where are the Pinnath Gelin and what minor figure in the Battle of the Pelennor is associated with them?

(Level 1)

bruce rerek · Post by **bruce rerek** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:18 pm

Would it be Fair if I answered or should I let our other readers have a go at it?

Merry · Post by **Merry** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:34 pm

Ha! Pretty sneaky, Bruce! Whatever you wish will be fine with me.

bruce rerek · Post by **bruce rerek** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:20 pm

From the distant western green hills of Gondor did Hirluin the Fair rode the 300. They came to aid of Eomer and the Rohirrm, but Hirluin paid the ultimate price and would not see the distant mountains again.

Merry · Post by **Merry** » Thu Aug 10, 2006 7:54 pm

Yes, indeed, Bruce. I love the name: I now want to be called 'Merry the Fair'.

Your up at the plate! (Sorry: been watching too much baseball, I guess.)

bruce rerek · Post by **bruce rerek** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:11 pm

Merry the Fair it is! (one hopes you would not grade on a curve)
I would like to pick up on where the script writers got it wrong. In the extened version of Return of the King, we have Eowen and Aragorn in a touching exchange where she relates a dream that had shaken her. Aragorn replies, "Sleep while you can, night changes many thoughts."
In reality it was another major character who said this to a minor character. Who and where? Level 1

Merry · Post by **Merry** » Fri Aug 11, 2006 7:07 pm

Oh, good question! And I don't grade on a curve. But I love the ambiguity of 'Fair': I was hoping my new title could also refer to my mature Irish features!

bruce rerek · Post by **bruce rerek** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:15 pm

It is well known fact as we mature so does the fairness of our features.

Merry · Post by **Merry** » Sat Aug 12, 2006 3:57 pm

Marilyn · Post by **Marilyn** » Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:44 pm

bruce rerek wrote: I would like to pick up on where the script writers got it wrong. In the extened version of Return of the King, we have Eowen and Aragorn in a touching exchange where she relates a dream that had shaken her. Aragorn replies, "Sleep while you can, night changes many thoughts."
In reality it was another major character who said this to a minor character. Who and where? Level 1

Sometimes when I'm reading LOTR I often underline phrases or sentences that appeared in PJ's scripts for the film, so it took me a while to find it. Theoden said these words to Hirgon at the Muster of Rohan on the Firienfeld.

Hope that's it anyway

Marilyn

bruce rerek · Post by **bruce rerek** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 1:52 pm

Marilyn, you are correct. Just like to keep the record correct. It was kind of jarring when PJ took so many liberties with whom said what and where.
It your turn and on any subject you wish.

Marilyn · Post by **Marilyn** » Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:41 pm

Yes, Bruce I agree and although PJ always went back to the book, many of the words spoken by others remain out of context. I was always disappointed by Grima’s words in the film to Eowyn that were spoken by Gandalf in the Houses of Healing

“But who knows what she spoke to the darkness, alone, in the bitter watches of the night … the walls of her bower closing in about her, a hutch to trammel some wild thing in”

How I truly missed this wonderful chapter that merely had a few seconds in the film.

On to my question – level 1

“where is the helm and the hauberk, and the bright hair flowing?” Which line precedes this and who spoke it?

Marilyn