The Lay of Leithian

Discussions about the Professor's poetic verses from Middle-earth
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The Lay of Leithian

Postby Iolanthe » Sun Mar 04, 2007 7:25 pm

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Postby Merry » Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:50 pm

I'll start, since I just finished reading this for the first time! I'm not a big fan of poetry in general, nor am I accustomed to reading it, so I guess that explains why I have put this off for so long. But I was pleasantly surprised to find it so readable. I could read it at a pace that kept up with my desire to follow this story. Tolkien's ability to choose the perfect word for the perfect spot is really evident here.
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Postby Iolanthe » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:24 pm

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Postby Iolanthe » Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:37 am

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Postby Merry » Thu Mar 15, 2007 2:20 am

Those are lines I would have picked out, too, Iolanthe. Just when the reader is horrified by Thingol's price for Luthien's hand, Beren comes back with all this attitude!

I think you said in another thread that you would read part of the Lay outloud for Tolkien Reading Day. I read parts of it aloud to myself during our long power failure, and it was really a pleasure!
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Postby Iolanthe » Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:49 pm

I'm loving this even more the more I read.

Canto V

I'm very struck with the references to Beren's loneliness and Luthien's awareness that he has only her to think of him (1250-1255 and 1418-1419). No wonder she risks all to go and search for him, she not only loves him - he truly doesn't have anyone else in the whole world.

Luthien's magic is interesting. There seems to be more elven magic in this than in anything else I've read - more like a true fairytale than a myth - and I suppose hers is more powerful than any other 'elven maid's before or since' because she is Melian's daughter. I love her singing a song of 'long and tall' things to make her hair grow. More singing! We were talking about this on the essay thread and her magic is wrought through song :D . It's as though singing about things happening will make them happen in a way that mere words won't. It weaves a spell over the words. That whole description of her magic and her escape is wonderful.

Canto V1

v. 1640 Tolkien has rhymed 'steals' with 'Silmarils'. So.... should Silmarils be pronounced Silmareels? ;-k

It's nice to read about Nargothrond so soon after seeing Alan Lee's new painting of the entrance. A little coincidence that really pleased me :D .

There are lots of passages that show how poetry can really lift a narrative into the epic: Celegorm's challenge (1848 onwards) Felagund choosing to honour his oath (1898 onwards). I'm far more gripped by all this than I was reading the story in the Sil.

And it's interesting how Celegorm and Curufin won't let anyone go after the Silmaril. They would rather it stayed in Morgoth's crown. You'd have thought that anything was better than that and if they succeeded they would have a better chance of then gaining it for themselves.

You can tell by now that I'm going to rabbit on about every chapter, can't you :lol: ?
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Postby Merry » Sat Mar 17, 2007 11:06 pm

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Postby Iolanthe » Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:16 pm

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Postby Iolanthe » Sat Mar 24, 2007 6:24 pm

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