Poetry of J.R.R. Tolkien

Discussions about the Professor's poetic verses from Middle-earth
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Postby Merry » Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:42 am

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Sing and be glad, all ye children of the West,
for your King shall come again,
and he shall dwell among you
all the days of your life.

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Postby Iolanthe » Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:01 am

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Now let the song begin! Let us sing together
Of sun, stars, moon and mist, rain and cloudy weather...

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Postby Iolanthe » Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:06 pm

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Now let the song begin! Let us sing together
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Postby Merry » Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:50 pm

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Sing and be glad, all ye children of the West,
for your King shall come again,
and he shall dwell among you
all the days of your life.

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Postby Iolanthe » Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:58 pm

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Postby Merry » Sun Jan 17, 2010 8:07 pm

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Sing and be glad, all ye children of the West,
for your King shall come again,
and he shall dwell among you
all the days of your life.

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Postby Iolanthe » Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:27 am

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Postby marbretherese » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:06 pm

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"Torment in the dark was the danger that I feared, and it did not hold me back.
But I would not have come, had I known the danger of light and joy."


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Postby Merry » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:17 pm

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Sing and be glad, all ye children of the West,
for your King shall come again,
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Postby marbretherese » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:22 pm

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"Torment in the dark was the danger that I feared, and it did not hold me back.
But I would not have come, had I known the danger of light and joy."


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Postby Iolanthe » Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:17 pm

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Postby Merry » Wed Jan 20, 2010 9:47 pm

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Sing and be glad, all ye children of the West,
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Postby marbretherese » Thu Jan 21, 2010 12:47 pm

No, Tolkien and Lewis weren't estranged at this point; not at all! Tolkien is addressing Lewis with his "Dear Sir". At various times, apparently, the full poem has started either "You look at trees" or "He looks at trees" , with the you/he referring to Lewis.

Although it's possible to read Mythopeia as a bitter diatribe against that merely logical, scientific, materialist worldview, Tolkien wrote it after what we can assume was a heated but friendly discussion with Lewis and Dyson, to expand on Tolkien's point of view and influence Lewis's thinking. Not so much bitter as passionate!

As Merry points out in her intro Lewis himself cited that discussion as a turning point in his beliefs - presumably reinforced by the poem.
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"Torment in the dark was the danger that I feared, and it did not hold me back.
But I would not have come, had I known the danger of light and joy."


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Postby Merry » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:11 pm

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Sing and be glad, all ye children of the West,
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Postby Iolanthe » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:32 pm

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Now let the song begin! Let us sing together
Of sun, stars, moon and mist, rain and cloudy weather...


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